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Martin GULDNER, the son of John Jacob Guldner was born 21 Mar 1802. His grandparents were Johan Georg and Gertraut(Harter) Guldner. The grandfather served about four years in the American Revolution. Gertraut Harter was the daughter of Martin Harter, an inn keeper of Heidelberg,PA. The Guldner's were of Lutheran faith. Martin came from Schuykill County, Pennsylvania to Livingston County between 1820 and 1830. He came by way of the Genesee Valley Canal, up the valley, staying overnight at the Bean Tavern in Groveland, where he fell in love with the tavern keepers(Henry Bean) daughter, Sarah. He went on to the village of Dansville where he engaged in business. He was a Cooper by trade. But every weekend found him back at the Bean Tavern where he courted and eventually wed the fair Sarah. She, also was from Pennsylvania, born there in 1809, probably Harrisburg. After Martin and Sarah were wed, they lived for a short time on the east shore of Conesus Lake, not far from where her two sisters lived. They being Catharina and Elizabeth Bean, who married Long brothers, Chris and John resepctively. In 1837 Martin bought a farm and log house about a mile north of Scottsburg in the town of Conesus. Martin and Sarah's children numbered ten. The family worked hard, were thrifty and prosperous. As they prospered they aspired for a better home in which to live. It is said Martin vowed "he was going to build a house just as nice as the Bean's" (Not sure which Bean's house). Judging from the census of 1855 and 1860, Martin did just that and built a framed dwelling. Martin died 26 Oct 1861 and his wife Sarah died 18 Jun 1886 in Conesus. The family name has been spelled several different ways. One possible reason for the change of spelling may have happened when Sarah Guldner visited her daughter-in-law, Emily Brown Giltner, wife of Martin Jr., and both ladies wound up in quite a discussion which became a heated argument which got out of control, for the "fur flew" and the English Emily soused her precious mother-in- law with a pan of milk. It is a question within the family weather this event resulted in Emily changing the German Guldner to her English Giltner. There is a road a mile north of Scottsburg, near the location of the old Guldner homestead with the name Guiltner Road. (Facts and Flying Fur, by Rena Guldner Fugle)